tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7659617117705804488.post1003190583366338013..comments2023-05-01T02:58:38.036-05:00Comments on You Ready Grandma: Bible Lessons with DavidSpecial Khttp://www.blogger.com/profile/15507687488597372375noreply@blogger.comBlogger5125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7659617117705804488.post-36746503649880353962008-12-02T23:28:00.000-06:002008-12-02T23:28:00.000-06:00Well I highly doubt that I would ever pick a relig...Well I highly doubt that I would ever pick a religion.<BR/><BR/>In fact if I had to right now I would pick Buddhism, which really isn't considered to be a religion by all who follow it.<BR/><BR/>I do believe that there COULD be a god, but I don't think there is any way to prove it.<BR/><BR/>On top of that, I don't think that any religion has an accurate description of what this deity COULD be like.<BR/><BR/>It all sounds like wishful thinking and the humanizing of a potential deity.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7659617117705804488.post-23339964650021736642008-12-02T12:16:00.000-06:002008-12-02T12:16:00.000-06:00Makes a lot of sense. I get frustrated with the wo...Makes a lot of sense. I get frustrated with the word "religion." I even get annoyed with "church" in general. The church is supposed to be a group of believers, encouraging and supporting each other. I'm not sure how it ever became a ritual we must practice. I think that someone living in the middle of the jungle can experience God, without ever having stepped foot in a church. And you're right, if Christians get so caught up in their religion that they forget to love, care and spread joy, then what is the point? I hope that in all of this you understand that although I do believe in the message of Christ, that I am not judging, discriminating or hating you or anyone else for feeling otherwise. <BR/>I feel like I did the whole youth group, Sunday school, church, bible school...blah blah blah (and you're right, it's repetitive and a lot of times not helping at all. It almost always produces "good" kids, who don't understand why they believe what they do). But it's when I actually would seek out God, and who He is and what His heart is for people, that I actually felt like I understand what I believe. <BR/>I'm almost hesitant to keep commenting...maybe I just need to be quiet. I'm not sure if me saying anything is doing any good...I know it is not my responsibility to change your mind, and I don't necessarily try to. It's just hard for me to read, when you are so right in so many ways...Christians need to realize a lot of what you're saying is true.Kelly Hesshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17994464700955373549noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7659617117705804488.post-21324228411849935472008-12-02T11:46:00.000-06:002008-12-02T11:46:00.000-06:00To Kelly:I have read two books that many Christian...To Kelly:<BR/><BR/>I have read two books that many Christians claim to be incredibly inspiring and truthful: The Case for Christ and the Case for Faith by Lee Strobel.<BR/><BR/>After reading them, and taking a course in the Philosophy of Logic, I found that the arguments were emotionally based and that there were mostly ad hominem (definition: marked by or being an attack on an opponent's character rather than by an answer to the contentions made)attacks on those who do not believe.<BR/><BR/>I truly believe that a lot of religious people have not been reading their holy texts.<BR/><BR/>When I used to go to church every Sunday, as I did for 18 years, I only heard the same verses repeated over and over again.<BR/><BR/>Literally, after a few years you already knew what they were going to say once the reading started.<BR/><BR/>The verses that we tend to hear in church are, apparently, carefully gleaned from the Bible so that we only hear what the priests and leaders want us to hear.<BR/><BR/>Are there other parts of the bible that are more uplifting and positive?<BR/><BR/>Obviously yes!<BR/><BR/>However, people claim that the bible is "god inspired"... not just parts of it... THE WHOLE THING.<BR/><BR/>And as we already discussed, those who disregard the old testament still have several verses in the new testament to deal with that make no sense or are offensive at best.<BR/><BR/>So I feel that since they tend to only hear the happy, positive, or demonstrative parts, that it is perfectly fair for me to share the seldom heard portions.<BR/><BR/>Even when we look at the history of the context it is easy to see that there are big discrepancies in story telling and logic.<BR/><BR/>Truly, if the bible is "god-inspired" then why does the deity change its mind, attitude, and positions so often?<BR/><BR/>Doesn't this all point to the fact that this book may really just have been written by men out of personal convenience and wishful thinking? Perhaps yes!<BR/><BR/>Is there a god? Maybe.<BR/>Can we prove it? No.<BR/><BR/>So how can we pick one religion and then live our lives based on this guessing?<BR/><BR/>I know I can't.<BR/><BR/>Why not just live good happy lives where we care for others and do our best to spread joy?<BR/><BR/>The worst part, for me, is when people pick one religion, claim it to be the absolute truth, and then enforce their beliefs on others via judgment, hatred, discrimination, and their political voting.<BR/><BR/>Does this make sense to you?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7659617117705804488.post-67456390735406526682008-12-02T11:28:00.000-06:002008-12-02T11:28:00.000-06:00Kelly, I agree with you. I love Dave, yes Dave, I ...Kelly, I agree with you. I love Dave, yes Dave, I love you now shoo. To argue a point without knowing the history makes the argument nearly invalid. But on Dave's side there are so many ridiculous bible verses that I can't blame him for picking them out. I would love to talk to you on the matter more Kelly. I've done my research, spent about 20 years of my life devoted to christ including mission trips, leading a youth group, playing in a christian rock band, etc. Since then I have delved deeper into the bible and christianity than I ever did in church I realized that it comes up short on far too many aspects for me to believe it. I absolutely believe in a god, it is arrogant to think anything else, but if the christian god exists then I want nothing to do with him.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7659617117705804488.post-71555831057287031432008-12-02T07:47:00.000-06:002008-12-02T07:47:00.000-06:00Have you checked out any research out there that s...Have you checked out any research out there that supports the belief in God? I feel like I can argue this all day, but in the end you won't believe me. I really hope that as you see contradictions, weird laws, and things you disagree with that you would try to find why Christians believe the way they do. Check the context of the verses you look up in the bible, not just on websites. Look into the history. You can't state your research as fact by looking up these random verses that seem to show Christianity as false. I really mean that Dave. I feel like if you dig a little you will understand it a little more. In the end, you still don't have to believe it, but some of the statements you make are just not valid.Kelly Hesshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17994464700955373549noreply@blogger.com